Comments on: What Have Progressives Got Against Progress?

By: Hausmaus

Hausmaus — Sun, 09 Nov 2008 02:21:43 +0000

I heard the other day that Exxon Mobil reported a record profit of, $13 Billion dollars for the third quarter of 2008. We need to implement a doctrine similar to the Fairness Doctrine for Broadcasters, that will even the playing field for big Oil Producers. Let’s have a Congressional Moratorium on oil production exclusively for Exxon Mobil untill the other oil producers catch up. What ever it takes to even the playing field, we must strive to make everybody equal, even if the economy goes to hell in a hand basket.

By: Wamba son of Witless

Wamba son of Witless — Sat, 18 Oct 2008 22:39:04 +0000

If you are an evil corporation, how do you legally bribe a politician? Give to the his favorite charity.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/19/us/politics/19charity.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

“Gifts to Pet Charities Keep Lawmakers Happy

“They do not seem the most likely classical music patrons: Northrop Grumman, General Dynamics, Boeing and Lockheed Martin.

“But together, these defense contractors are donating hundreds of thousands of dollars to the symphony orchestra in Johnstown, Pa., underwriting performances of Mozart and Wagner in this struggling former steel town. A defense lobbying firm, the PMA Group, even sprang for a Champagne reception at the symphony’s opera festival last month.

“Company representatives say they are being generous corporate citizens. But the orchestra is also a beloved charity of Representative John Murtha, Democrat of Pennsylvania, whose Congressional committee hands out lucrative defense contracts, and whose wife, Joyce, is a major booster of the symphony.”

Further in the article they list Republican’s charities also benefiting from the big hearts of evil capitalism.

By: Mister Guy

Mister Guy — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 03:43:30 +0000

“And there is a STRONG possibility it will go to McCain.”

Only in your dreams “DJ”. The GOP almost always makes a play for PA, since the central portion of the state (where few people live) has a fair amount of “conservatives”. I can tell you that from experience…I lived there for over 4 years. The thing is, as I’ve pointed out before, Dems outnumber GOP members by 2-to-1 in PA, and that is a very, very difficult thing to overcome, even if you peel a few “conservative” Dems off.

“go send your savior Obama a little contribution now to make yourself feel better”

I don’t give money to politicians tyvm.

“by your comment am I to deduce that a State by State poll does not reflect the nation?”

No, it doesn’t…it reflects how that state (and ONLY that state) may vote, and yes…YOU really are that dumb!

“and you call them right wing”

Look at who praises them…David Brooks, Brit Hume (FOX “News”), Michael Barone, Paul Gigot (The WSJ), Rich Karlgaard (Forbes), & Fred Barnes (The Weekly Standard)…the Right-wing! RCP collects polling data and then interprets & presents it in ways that can maximize its impact on “conservative” candidates.

“You don’t like them because BHO is losing!”

Again “DJ”…only in your mind is this true…

By: DJ

DJ — Tue, 09 Sep 2008 11:56:27 +0000

“Note PA is a TOSS UP state”

And there is a STRONG possibility it will go to McCain.

“It isn’t…that’s the point stupid.”

Do numbers escape you? PA is VERY near the margin of error, hence the REASON it is a toss up, but I can see the truth is starting to scare you Comrade Guy, go send your savior Obama a little contribution now to make yourself feel better…

“I have received the e-mails” I have, you just don’t like the notion that you cannot control my inbox!

“…refer to state-by-state polls, which would give insight into how the vote in the Electoral College might come out.”

So, by your comment am I to deduce that a State by State poll does not reflect the nation?? You can’t really be that dumb can you?

“…RCP is a Right-leaning site…” Your a liar! LOL

The site lists polls from MSNBC, polls from CNN and polls from damn near every other credible source, and you call them right wing?? Surely you can do better than that. The site collects poll data, not RIGHT WING or LEFT WING poll data but POLL DATA. You don’t like them because BHO is losing!

By: Mister Guy

Mister Guy — Tue, 09 Sep 2008 04:25:52 +0000

“And yet that is what YOU USED AS EVIDENCE”

Really, where exactly was I citing NATIONAL head-to-head polls for anything?? Oh yea, it was nowhere. All of those webites that I’ve posted refer to state-by-state polls, which would give insight into how the vote in the Electoral College might come out. YOU’RE the one using meaningless national head-to-head polls “DJ”.

“I have received the e-mails”

No, you really haven’t…you’re lying, period.

“those are meaningless now right?”

No, they’ve been meaningliess all along…try & follow the conversation “DJ”…I know it’s hard for you…

“when the popular vote of say PENNSYLVANIA is back near the margin of error”

It isn’t…that’s the point stupid.

“Note PA is a TOSS UP state”

PA is a *battleground state* (as it’s been in the last many election cycles), hence their non-commital as to who’s side it’s currently on. PA has been on Obama’s side almost for this entire election cycle & that remains to be the case right now.

We’ve been over this before…RCP is a Right-leaning site…just look at the vast majority of people who sing their praises:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/about.html

“Also, don’t be surprised to see your Liberal bastion in CA become a battlegound before this election is over”

More utter nonsense…keep dreaming…

By: DJ

DJ — Mon, 08 Sep 2008 19:39:39 +0000

“The national head-to-head polls are meaningless! They were meaningless when they showed the two leading candidates tied or when they showed either one ahead by whatever margin.”

And yet that is what YOU USED AS EVIDENCE-agian Comrade Guy, you failed to make a valid point, YOU posted poll results to argue YOUR point. You may choose to call my rebuttal weak, thats okay, regardless, I have received the e-mails, call it what you will. GOVERNOR Palin has changed this race! The most recent poll out today shows McCain ahead by 6-10 points among likely voters-but wait, those are meaningless now right? And you call ME intellectually dishonest! You are a hypocrite sir! You post polls that support your position then call them meaningless! BRAVO MORON!

As far the Electoral college, I am well aware of how we elect the President- what you seem to fail to be able to grasp is the PEOPLE choose who they vote for, and the Candidate/Ticket with the most votes gets the electoral votes of that state, therefore, when the popular vote of say PENNSYLVANIA is back near the margin of error, that means the tide is turning in that state, this is not rocket science, take the blinders off and look at actual facts vice your skewed opinions.

I am sure you will disregard this link, for some silly “spin” reason, but here are the latest FACTS;

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/maps/obama_vs_mccain/

Note PA is a TOSS UP state, McCain-Palin are gaining ground there. Also, don’t be surprised to see your Liberal bastion in CA become a battlegound before this election is over, McCain probably will not win it, but it is going to be contested.

I Know, I know YOU have already decided poles are “meaningless data”…to bad your opinion only matters to you.

By: Mister Guy

Mister Guy — Mon, 08 Sep 2008 07:55:51 +0000

The national head-to-head polls are meaningless! They were meaningless when they showed the two leading candidates tied or when they showed either one ahead by whatever margin. Surely, you’re aware that we elect the President of the USA through the Electoral College & NOT the popular vote??

“I base my opinion on the fact that I have received over 100 e mails in the last 4 days from friends of mine (real people not My Space friends) who have changed their mind regarding BHO.”

That’s real scientific of you “DJ”…let’s BOTH be complete & total liars and I’ll say that I received the same number of e-mails indictaing the opposite…LOL!!

“pulled numerous independents”

I’ve seen absolutely NO evidence of this at all. Palin is nothing more than a hard Right GOP member on just about every issue we could discuss. The tops of both tickets will be deciding on where true Independents go, and both candidates have appeal in that area.

“PA is back in play by the way, and don’t look now, but MI has a remote chance of going to Republicans this year as well.”

You’re dreaming again…both of these states have gone solidly for Dems since 1992. The idea that a completely weak candidate like Kerry could win them both but Obama can’t is just silly on the face of it.

By: DJ

DJ — Mon, 08 Sep 2008 02:59:36 +0000

So recent (pre RNC convention) polling data is your “evidence” for an Obama win? You need to get out more. First, the mini-bounce BHO received is gone. Second, his numbers are as high as they are going to get (my opinion) and from here on out they will begin to fall. I base my opinion on the fact that I have received over 100 e mails in the last 4 days from friends of mine (real people not My Space friends) who have changed their mind regarding BHO. The vast majority of them are Independent and usually vote for whoever the polling data has ahead on election day, that way they can “claim” they voted for the winner, it didn’t work out to well most of them in the last two elections, and it appears that the lesson they learned is to, well get EDUCATED, but I digress…
Third, GOVERNOR Palin has roused the Republican base, pulled numerous independents, and a majority of “single issue” voters as well, polling data will be out soon. PA is back in play by the way, and don’t look now, but MI has a remote chance of going to Republicans this year as well. I am not by any measure “guaranteeing” a McCain-Palin win Comrade Guy, I Am simply pointing all of the intangibles that your side always forget about (we Conservatives like to call them “unintended consequences of Liberal policy”). It is goinig to be a very interesting few weeks!

By: Mister Guy

Mister Guy — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 08:39:54 +0000

“He’s pointing out your sense that the commons should be open for you to tell others it’s not open to them.”

Now, let’s pretend that THAT makes any sense…lol…when did I ever say that?? Oh yea, it was never…your bad…

“your opinion is quite annoying.”

I’m sorry that you find simple facts “annoying” “DJ”…that’s *your* problem, not mine.

“Don’t be surprised when Obama doesn’t get 220 electoral votes, the math is not that hard to figure out, FL, OH and PA are no longer in the Obama column”

Since when??

http://www.dcpoliticalreport.com/polls08.htm

electoral-vote.com/

http://www.presidentelectionpolls.com/2008/presidential-matchups/barack-obama-vs-john-mccain.html

http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008/general-election/electoral-college-results.html

McSame has no chance in PA (Dems outnumbers GOP members there by 2-to-1). Obama has more of a chance to pick up OH than he does FL, but he really doesn’t even need either at this point. Wake up “DJ”…this election is being fought on GOP ground, not Democratic ground…get ready for a big disappointment.

“socialism failed eastern Europe.”

Too bad they were actually communists…the most successful type of economy the world over is a mixed economy, like the USA & a lot of its allies have right now.

By: Joe

Joe — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 23:10:21 +0000

The first year I was able to vote LBJ (light bulb Johnson) nuked the little girl picking flowers.
That showed me the extreme evil of the dumocrat party
Anything to get elected.

Wake up, socialism failed eastern Europe. May it fail the dumocrats too.