The “R” Word

I’ve always been intrigued by the sheer power of language. Usually, the power of words lies in their context, and in the way they’re strung together to communicate a complex concept in a way that disposes the listener to accept or reject it. Certain words, however, have their own intrinsic power, irrespective of context. I think of those as magic words. The “F” word is a magic word because of its peculiar power to shock and offend and to stop a conversation dead in its tracks. But the power of the “F” word pales in comparison to the power of the “N” word.

The “N” word may be the most powerful word in the English language, in terms of pure visceral impact and the ability to elicit shock, anger, betrayal, humiliation, hatred, and even violence. Can you think of any other two syllables stuck together that could incite a riot? The “N” word is not just a word; it’s a weapon. It’s an incredibly ugly word because it objectifies the person at whom it’s leveled, stripping them of their individuality and casting them as an insignificant inferior.

The word “Racist” is another of those amazingly powerful words, similar to the “N” word in its capacity to evoke an emotional response. Arguably, the “R” word is even uglier than the “N” word, because what it says about the person at whom it’s leveled is uglier. It implies that they are blind to the individuality of others and are motivated by ignorant hate.

One may say the “N” word is worse because it’s based on race, a characteristic with which one is born, about which one has no choice. Presumably, if one is a racist, it’s by their own volition. But what’s more insidious about calling someone a racist is that, just because one is labeled that, doesn’t mean it’s true. Yet how does one prove what one is not? Once tarred with the brush of racism, either by accusation or implication, one cannot easily defend oneself without sounding like one is begging the question.

Spurious imputations of racism are increasingly in vogue these days among a certain set of people. It’s commonly used to shut down discussion without having to come up with a rational response, to vilify someone with whom one disagrees, and to discredit whatever it is they have to say. Unlike the “N” word, which is so politically incorrect that one can’t even spell it out without invoking imprecations of racism, the word “racist” is commonly used by those who see themselves as infallibly politically correct.

It’s ironic that, though Senator Obama sells himself as the “post-racial” candidate who will heal the racial divide in our nation, his campaign has become the focal point for racial divisiveness. Perhaps more ironic is that the most aggressive perpetrators of that racial divisiveness are not his opponents, but his supporters. While Obama himself has tiptoed around direct accusations of racism, many of his supporters are quick to fling the epithet at anyone and everyone who doesn’t support their candidate, or who disagrees with them on any number of hot button issues.

I know how it feels to be branded with the scarlet “R” for daring to speak about race without genuflecting before the altar of political correctness. But I’m not intimidated by magic words. However, I know many people who are hesitant to express legitimate opinions about subjects such as affirmative action or welfare because they don’t want to be put in the position of having to defend themselves against the inevitable intimations of racism. How are we ever going to “heal the racial divide” if we can’t talk openly and honestly about any issues that happen to touch on race? Liberals like to spout “Speak truth to power,” but they won’t abide people who speak truth to political correctness.

I’ll continue to speak my mind, and to support my opinions with logic and facts. Anybody who can refute my positions with logic and facts is welcome to convince me I’m wrong. I’ve been wrong before, and I’ll be wrong again, but I won’t shut up because I’m afraid of what somebody might call me, no matter how ugly it is.


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  1. In English class they speak of “signal alert” words. Those are words with neutral denotations but which carry powerful connotations. In articulation, one chooses the signal alert word to deliver a sort of double whammy. An example would be use of the word “infirmary” instead of “clinic” or “hospital.” Their use can be very insidious.

    The denigrations you are calling “magic” words are in that category but they are overt. Also they are usually not invoked until one has reached the bottom of the barrel. Thus, to me at least, the use is purely indicative of the lack of intellectual capacity of the user.

    The “R” word is somewhat peculiar in that it is necessary to adequately describe the racial supremicist. No big deal. The usage, however, almost always goes to imposing a “bad” evaluation.

    Could one be avowedly racist and not be bad?

  2. “It’s ironic that, though Senator Obama sells himself as the ‘post-racial’ candidate who will heal the racial divide in our nation, his campaign has become the focal point for racial divisiveness. Perhaps more ironic is that the most aggressive perpetrators of that racial divisiveness are not his opponents, but his supporters.”

    Gee whiz…a half-black man runs for the highest office in the USA and things eventually turn racial. I’m beginning to think that you do, in fact, live in a fantasy world when race & gender issues don’t exist anymore. In the real world, people are dealing with them still every, single day…wake up…

    Oh, and I’m sure it’s our side that is constantly pointing out that Obama might have a secret Muslim heritage, an extreme African-centric religion, etc., etc.. And I’m sure the guy that I saw call Obama “Obammy” in another forum the other day wasn’t at all being racist in recalling the mammy times from early in the last century. Give me a break…

    What I have increasingly noticed in the Right-wing blogsphere is a lot of thin-skins…maybe it comes from Bush fatigue or advocating policies that have all almost completely & totally failed at this point…but it’s fun to watch none-the-less.

    I’m sure that you will continue to revel in your “rebel” status speaking your nonsense about affirmative action & welfare…no one is telling you shut up as far as I can tell. You do your cause all the disservice in the world by using the language that you do…so keep it up!

    “Could one be avowedly racist and not be bad?”

    The same goes for you Mr. Swift…lol…

  3. I never said racism doesn’t exist. It certainly does. But affirmative action doesn’t help to end it; rather it promotes the very perceptions it attempts to eliminate. My argument against affirmative action is that it’s ineffectual. That doesn’t mean it has never had any beneficial effects. But, because of its nature, it can only go so far before it starts to have the opposite effect. I believe it has passed the apogee of its effectiveness.

    I’ve noticed before that you have a tendency to point out a few extremists, and use their words or actions to condemn all conservatives, as though you imagine a whole group of people can be judged by the actions of a few. I believe in treating each person as an individual, and dealing with them on their own merits. Making blanket judgments against a large group based on a few examples is the very definition of prejudice. You exemplify it, even in your attempts to accuse others of it. Strange, indeed, that you should be so blind to the very traits in yourself for which you are quick to condemn others.

    Bush-fatigue wouldn’t apply to me. I’m not a Bush supporter. I never even voted for him.

  4. Ever noticed that the only person bringing up race is Obambi himself?

  5. Racism, “groupism”, “identity politics”, collectivism are all “blind to the individuality of others” – as you put it.

    I think Obama would like to be the “post-racial” messiah but he is unfortunately absolutely unable to disentangle himself from his leftist collectivist “groupthink” indoctrination and simply be himself – an individual American.

    To him “post-racial” means the same as it means to all the commies: whites should be guilty and kowtow to blacks.

  6. Jack, you raise an interesting hypothetical question, but I’d like some clarification. Are you asking whether an individual could be a racist, and yet still be a good person? (I.e., if an individual were a humanitarian, perhaps even a hero, and yet held the belief that one race is superior to another, does that belief automatically make him a bad person?) Or are you asking whether the belief that one race is superior to another is necessarily bad?

    If the latter, how are you defining “bad?” In the first interpretation, where we’re talking about a person, I assume “bad” to mean immoral. In the second interpretation, where we’re talking about an idea or belief, would “bad” be defined as inaccurate? Or as counterproductive? Or would it still be defined as immoral? In the abstract, could an idea be both accurate and immoral?

    I’m aware that, to many people, even the consideration of such a question is appalling. It’s the sort of thing that usually isn’t subjected to logical analysis, because it’s fraught with emotion and cultural taboos. Personally, I don’t see why any question should be off limits to rational discourse.

  7. “I never said racism doesn’t exist. It certainly does.”

    Well then guess what? We need affirmative action in order to counter-balance it until it melts away as a relevant factor in our society. The idea that affirmative action feeds racism is just a silly argument on the face of it.

    “I’ve noticed before that you have a tendency to point out a few extremists, and use their words or actions to condemn all conservatives, as though you imagine a whole group of people can be judged by the actions of a few.”

    LOL…and you don’t do the same, exact thing when it comes to people in the Middle East?? Please, physician heal thyself…

    “Prejudice” against “conservatives” eh?? Boy, I guess all the bashing that I see of “liberals” on this blog is just a coincidence then? LOL…you really are quite touchy on these topics, aren’t you??

    “Ever noticed that the only person bringing up race is Obambi himself?”

    Ever read the newspaper, watch the news, or go online and read some of what has been written about Obama?? The idea that the only people bringing up race in this political campaign are Obama supporters is completely & totally false.

    “whites should be guilty and kowtow to blacks.”

    You’re certainly right NYD, racism is alive & well in this country unfortunately.

    Good luck justifying you’re buddy Mr. Swift’s “logic” BTW…lol…

  8. Calling an argument “silly” is not the same as refuting it. Observe the reaction to affirmative action and perhaps you’ll see what I mean.

    Please give me an example of an instance in which I judged all people in the Middle East by the actions of a few. (I can give you examples where I said the opposite.)

    I have no need of justifying Mr. Swift’s logic. I’m just trying to clarify the question so we can engage in a rational discussion about it. I realize that doesn’t come naturally to you, but you’re welcome to give it a try.

  9. Affirmative action is a waste of time. It was created to combat institutionalized racism, not individual racism. If, for instance, I want to discriminate against a job applicant, I can invent any number of reasons to say “No Hire” and there is not a single thing the affirmative action laws can do about this, even if my real reason is that I was a racist (just try proving it…).
    In the real world, we hire the best person to do the job. Companies are way more concerned with making money than with making themselves all white male, and put processes in place to get the best people to do the work.
    The most enlightened companies are very careful to hire only on ability to generate profit, as it should be.

  10. Well said, Tuco.

  11. “Calling an argument ‘silly’ is not the same as refuting it.”

    And denial isn’t just a river in Egypt.

    “Please give me an example of an instance in which I judged all people in the Middle East by the actions of a few.”

    You’ve got to be kidding me…your views on Iran and the rest of the Middle East are basically that the actions of few crazy terrorists paints the entire area as a huge threat to the USA.

    “I realize that doesn’t come naturally to you, but you’re welcome to give it a try.”

    Well, it certainly didn’t take long for you to revert to your usual childish tantrums when your views and statements are challeneged here…just par for the course for you NYD…sad really…

    “It was created to combat institutionalized racism, not individual racism.”

    Also as per usual, Tuco has it all wrong…for the who-knows-what-time. Who do you think was acting in all those institutions (then AND now) in a racist way…individuals! And thanks for coming up with ways around affirmative action laws by being a racist…that’s very progressive of you…sheesh… People win lawsuits all the time due to racial discrimination.

  12. Mr. Guy, I asked for an example of any instance you can find where I did what you accused me of doing. Repeating that I do it all the time is meaningless if you can’t come up with a single example. Here’s an example of where I said exactly the opposite. In Don’t Believe the Enemy’s Propaganda, I wrote:

    It’s important to remember that the vast majority of Muslims in the world are peaceful people, with families and jobs and lives, who have nothing to do with terrorism. A very small percentage of Muslims are extremists

    Perhaps you have confused me with some other conservative blogger. I know we all look alike to you.

    Uh-oh, Tuco, it looks like you’ve just been branded with the scarlet R. From Mr. Guy’s perspective, I’m a sexist, you’re a racist, and everybody who disagrees with him no doubt ends up being some kind of an *ist. — But the thing about these magic words is that they lose their power when overused. Today, the word “racist” cuts like a knife, but tomorrow the point may be so dull as to make people shrug and say “If it suits you to think so… Whatever.”

  13. “Repeating that I do it all the time is meaningless if you can’t come up with a single example.”

    And here are some exmaples where you equate the entire country of Iran today (and its people):
    -with the small number of young terrorists that took U.S. hostages almost 30 years ago – notyourdaddy.wordpress.com/2008/02/12/are-we-really-at-war/#comments

    -with Al-Qaeda – notyourdaddy.wordpress.com/2008/02/18/sunni-and-shiite-unite-against-the-west/#comments

    -with “a suicide bomber mentaility” – notyourdaddy.wordpress.com/2008/03/10/nuclear-terrorism-coming-soon/#comments
    and
    notyourdaddy.wordpress.com/2008/07/14/giving-peace-a-chance/#comments

    The fact is that in your blind, constant shilling for the country of Israel (which I still find very odd to this day) you have engaged over & over again in wild, unsubstanciated hyperbole when it comes to Iran & its people. I can understand why some religious conservatives shill for Israel…they would like to see a huge conflict arise over the land in Israel to trigger the “Rapture” & Armageddon. You, NYD, have never struct me as one of those wackos.

    “you’re a racist, and everybody who disagrees with him no doubt ends up being some kind of an *ist”

    More childest tantrums won’t change what you’ve already written NYD. I don’t know if Tuco is a actual racist, only that he makes up excuses for racists. You, NYD, are a sexist in your words AND you make excuses for other sexists…now go deal with it in an adult way (I won’t hold my breath). More whining isn’t going to change anything. I’m glad to know that you don’t apparently *care* that you’re a sexist as well…so continue to revel in your petty “non-PC” ways…they will be your ultimate undoing unfortunately…

  14. Something tells me that “Mister Guy” doesn’t have standing.

    Seeking victim status as a third party doesn’t create a new victim class. It’s simply silly.

    As Mister Conlon is able to tell you, there are a lot of different types of racism. What we call racism doesn’t even scratch your ass in Jo-berg.

    I remember the first time I was called kike. I went home and asked my mom what it meant, and was puzzled by the appelation. What does it mean to be called short-hand for Hebrew? You think I hadn’t heard Hebe before?

    Is name calling anything more than self-identifying as an ass without opinion or merit?

    Me? I’m grateful for the experience. The value of an ephithet is in the way you receive it. For me this was underscored in Mr. DeCicco’s tire warehouse about forty years ago.

    Mr. DeCicco–for those of you who didn’t grow up in Portland–had one of those places you saw when entering Portland from the south after I-5 was first built. On one of the pillars inside of his tire store he had a poster on Italian tires. In it was every perjorative that had been leveled at those of Italian descent, including the the fact that “tires, when dago flat, dago wop, wop, wop.”

    Call me a kike? It rhymes with bike. And trike. And pestinipheolyke. The point? What mom said, “Sticks and stones can break my bones, but words will never harm me.”

    Only I can choose to be a victim. And I don’t choose to be one.

    Apply to self once a day, as needed.

  15. Mr. Guy, please provide the actual quotes to which you’re referring. You posted some links and claimed that I said something somewhere on those pages, but I can’t find the specific quotes that justify your claims. So please cut and paste the specific quotes so I can see what you’re talking about.

    If you’re referring to the fact that I use the term “Iran” to refer to the government of that country, that is common practice. For example, when one says “Isreal has nuclear weapons,” one does not mean every citizen of Israel has a nuclear weapon. One means the government has nuclear weapons. Likewise, when I refer to Iran and their intentions, I’m referring to the government, not to all the individuals who live there. I believe I clarified that point on July 17, when I replied to a comment of yours on the Giving “Peace” a Chance post, saying:

    It doesn’t matter if everyone in Iran believes it. It only matters that the leaders do, because they’re the ones with the power to launch a nuclear attack, once they have nuclear capability.

    How do you get from that to claiming that I equate the entire country of Iran, and its people, with terrorists? I’m sorry, Mr. Guy, the words you’re trying to put into my mouth don’t fit.

    I’m well aware that every country has a percentage of citizens who disagree with their government. And I have a lot of sympathy for the citizens of countries that impose tyrannical law (e.g., Shari’a) on them against their will. I also know that innocent people get killed in war, and I wish that were never necessary. But, when a foreign government threatens or attacks us and/or our allies, our first duty is to protect our citizens. Our next duty is to protect our allies’ citizens. Protecting the citizens of the country that attacks us is desirable, where possible, but is a lower priority than incapacitating their government from attacking us and our allies.

  16. Mr Guy, it isn’t illegal to be a racist, anyone who wants to can be, and they come in all colors, trust me on this. I don’t care what people call me.

    There is a name for people who call other people names…

    I’ll believe that the affirmative action laws are worth something if they work both ways.
    Guess what?
    They don’t.
    They won’t.
    They never have.
    They are an anachronism that needs to go away.
    And as for NYD being a sexist, well, I think you are wrong.

  17. “Seeking victim status as a third party doesn’t create a new victim class.”

    “What we call racism doesn’t even scratch your ass in Jo-berg.”

    “Is name calling anything more than self-identifying as an ass without opinion or merit?”

    What the heck are you even talking about? Do you even know?? Are we speaking in code now?

    “please provide the actual quotes to which you’re referring.”

    What…do I have spoon feed you your own words from your own blog?! No, I had to re-read all the garbage that you posted…now you do the same…

    You’ve linked basically everyone in Iran (as if they are all of the same mindset) with the small number of young terrorists that took U.S. hostages almost 30 years ago, with Al-Qaeda (where there is NO objective evidence that they have ever been linked), and with “a suicide bomber mentaility” that therefore disqualifies them from rational reasoning that the rest of the world does on a daily basis. In your mind, because there are a few wingnuts on the top of the foodchain in Iran (and I could say the same about this country right now unfortuntely as well)…the entire country is a threat that must be dealt with harshly.

    Your quotes from that “Giving ‘Peace’ a Chance” postings are quite illustrative of how you “think”. In your mind, because you label Ahmadinejad (who is basically a figurehead in Iran – he has very, very little power to weld there) as someone that is unreasonable to deal with…therefore the entire populace must share his views & be written off. Your positions on terrorism in the Middle East and on Iran in particular are filled with worthless hyberbole and over-simplifications.

    “But, when a foreign government threatens or attacks us and/or our allies, our first duty is to protect our citizens.”

    Once again, Iran hasn’t attacked us, period.

    “Mr Guy, it isn’t illegal to be a racist, anyone who wants to can be, and they come in all colors, trust me on this.”

    You’re not really admitting that you’re a racism Tuco, are you?? Even you can’t be that stupid…

    “I’ll believe that the affirmative action laws are worth something if they work both ways.”

    How in the *world* would that even be possible??

  18. Mr. Guy, you’ve chosen to ignore what I wrote about my references to Iran being references to their govenment, and not to all the people in Iran, and you are repeating the same argument I already refuted.

    It suits you to interpret my posts in a particular light but, when asked to back up your interpretation with quotes, you cannot.

    Then you quote me as saying “When a foreign government threatens or attacks us…” and attempt to refute that by saying “Iran hasn’t attacked us, period.” What part of the word “or” don’t you understand?

  19. Mr. Guy said:
    “You’re not really admitting that you’re a racism Tuco, are you?? Even you can’t be that stupid…”

    Tuco quotes Jules:
    “ENGLISH M.F., DO YOU SPEAK IT?”

    Actually I really enjoy getting Mr Guy all worked up into a rabid typing blather. And as far as Iran not attacking us, you seem to be ignoring the fact that American service people are getting killed with explosive devices that can be directly traced back to Iran, and that we have captured Iranian intelligence folks in Iraq with evidence that they were assisting Shiite militia with their efforts against us. OK, cool, they aren’t attacking us, and if we launch a few covert strikes into Iran to get a little payback we aren’t attacking them either, right? All is fair in love and war!
    Oh, calling what NYD posts garbage, well, keep reading it!! I doubt you’ll learn anything, but it’s amusing to watch you try!

  20. “It suits you to interpret my posts in a particular light but, when asked to back up your interpretation with quotes, you cannot.”

    Sheesh, could you be any more of a childish, lil pansy whenever you get confronted with your own words here?? It’s unbelievable how quickly you revert back a few decades in time…

    These are your words, not mine:
    “The current president of Iran was a member of the terrorist organization that took 52 American hostages in Tehran in 1979.”

    Your entire post “Sunni and Shiite Unite Against the West” is dedicated to making a *completely bogus claim* than Iran & Al-Qaeda are one-in-the-same by quoting the neo-cons at the Weekly Standard…the same exact people got into the mess that we’re in over in the Middle East to begin with!

    “Ahmadinejad was also a member of the Islamic terrorist organization that took 52 Americans hostage at the U.S. embassy in Tehran in 1979.”

    “the difference between Iran and other nuclear powers is that most countries with nuclear capabilities are deterred by the concept of Mutual Assured Destruction. For a radical Islamic government with a suicide bomber mentaility, that is not a deterrent.”

    “I believe that Iran is a special case, because of its direct and repeated threats to both the U.S. and our ally, Irael. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is a fanatic who believes that, even if his own country is destroyed in the process, he will be richly rewarded by Allah for destroying us and our valued ally.”

    “To those who aspire to die while smiting the enemy because that makes them a holy martyr (and guarantees them 72 virgins when they get to heaven), Mutual Assured Destruction is not a deterrent but ‘a consummation devoutly to be wished…’”

    Over & over again, you wander into mindless hyperbole and fear-mongering when it comes to the issue of Iran.

    “What part of the word ‘or’ don’t you understand?”

    What part of the phrase “Idle ‘threats’ from spolied brats don’t add up to much of anything” do YOU not understand?? During our conflicts with Syria in the 1980s they threatened to conduct naval exercises off the U.S. coast, despite not having ONE single boat that could survive a trip across the Atlantic, but, of course, you would have taken them seriously at that kind of “threat”…

    “‘ENGLISH M.F., DO YOU SPEAK IT?’”

    Oh my, a thousand appologies for my making a typo Taco, how about this then:

    You’re not really admitting that you’re a racist Tuco, are you??

    Well, are you??

    “And as far as Iran not attacking us, you seem to be ignoring the fact that American service people are getting killed with explosive devices that can be directly traced back to Iran, and that we have captured Iranian intelligence folks in Iraq with evidence that they were assisting Shiite militia with their efforts against us.”

    Sure, and I believe everything else the U.S. govt. says these days. The fact is that you guys cherry pick whatever want you want to believe and repeat it while ignoring everything else to the contrary. Have fun fighting a war with Iran…will YOU be going over Taco, because basically no one else is available to go right now. BTW, you haven’t learned a thing in quite some time Taco…

  21. Of course I’m not a racist, Mr Guy, I have hired and work with many smart minorities and smart white people, which is why I’m rich and successful. In fact, I only hire people smarter than I am.
    I see, you don’t believe the military people on the ground who catch the Iranians in the act. So much for supporting our troops!
    Oh dear, you are calling NYD names, who’s being childish now?

  22. Mr. Guy, I’m not sure what point you’re trying to prove. I asked you to provide quotes to support your claim that I have ever judged all people in the Middle East by the actions of a few. The quotes you posted do not support that claim. BTW, you should reread my post on Sunni and Shiite Unite Against the West. Your summary shows that you didn’t understand it. (Either that or you’re deliberately misrepresenting it, but I give you the benefit of the doubt.)

    The fact is that you guys cherry pick whatever want you want to believe and repeat it while ignoring everything else to the contrary.

    Curious, that seems to be exactly what you’re doing when you maintain that you can’t believe what our government says. How do you pick what to believe and what not to?

  23. “In fact, I only hire people smarter than I am.”

    Well, that shouldn’t be to hard to do. In my mind, “supporting our troops” means getting them out of the middle of someone else’s civil war and bringing them home!

  24. “I’m not sure what point you’re trying to prove.”

    And apprently, no matter how much I spoon feed you…you never will. So do yourself a favor and keep spewing the lies & falsehoods that you do about what’s really been going on in the Middle East over the last few decades. I understand the nonsense that you continually spew about that region just fine…I just happen to know that it’s almost complete & total bunk…like a lot of your “facts” tend to end up being.

    “that seems to be exactly what you’re doing when you maintain that you can’t believe what our government says. How do you pick what to believe and what not to?”

    Consider the source for one…how simple a job is that to do?! You want me to believe the same Regime that took us to War in Iraq based on a pack of lies, says that torturing people is just fine, says that violating U.S. law (habeas corpus, illegal wiretapping, etc., etc.) is A-OK that know says that we need a new conflict with Iran?? Give me break. You want me to believe the same, exact people that helped this Regime lie us into War in Iraq that Iran is linked with Al-Qaeda?? No thanks. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist…

  25. ohhh, Mr. Guy needs to spoon-feed people. I see, we’re babies in his eyes, nice!! Mr. Guy, do you change diapers? I might need mine changed sometime, and I think you are ideally suited to perform this task!!
    I know you think you are doing The Obama’s work here, with your (pretty weak) trolling. Why don’t you go back to DailyKos where you belong and troll the people there? That’s right, they kick trolls off! And they kick off anyone who does not agree with them! (I got kicked off (again) tonight for calling Elizabeth Edwards something bad for helping her husband lie to everyone. Just because she has cancer she does not get a free pass for being a liar!)
    But I digress!
    Personally, I think we ought to just leave Iran alone. If they nuke anyone, it will be someone in the region, so it will be Saudi Arabia, Israel, or someone in Europe. I’ll cry a river of tears over whoever gets fried. And then Israel will glass the place. I’ll cry a river of tears over that, too.
    I think we should let Mr. Guy “have it his way”. Then let him deal with the consequences.

  26. I happen to agree with Mr. Guy is correct that racism, even vitriolic malicious racism is alive and well in the country. There are those of us who resent seeing Martin Luther King Boulevards in every damn city. And every time we see one, it hardens the resentment. Why? Because we see the aggrandizement of King as a form of affirmative action. It is guilt ridden elitism making atonement for who knows what?

    Affirmative action is a dumb idea. It punishes the innocent. It rewards the incompetent. It diminishes the standards of performance. It contributes to the dumbing down of America.

    I think we are all racists in the academic sense that we make generic evaluations of the worth of ethnic groups based upon experience. Does that create a specific bar that Mr Guy seems to envision calling for the need to establish certain stereotypes as accomplished? Not at all.

    For that end, I see it as a colossal failure. In Riverside, CA when I lived there it became a big court deal to bus students all across town to develop a balanced diversity in the schools. Did that eliminate racial stereotyps? Not at all. After four years, testing of the student body established that in popular opinion Blacks were fast, Mexicans were strong, and Whites were smart. In fact, these perceptions were more intense than before the integration effort. Based on results the exercise was abandoned.

    Do those perceptions translate into some kind of rule that all Blacks are fast but dumb? etc. Not at all. But any student that harbored such perception would apparently be a racist. 4 years of expense and we got a student body of racists?

    Dumb idea. Respect (and contumely) are earned.

  27. Personally, I’ve never resented seeing a MLK Blvd. (In fact, I’ve never resented any street name. Why bother?) I also disagree that we all make generic evaluations of the worth of ethnic groups based upon experience. I’ve never evaluated an individual based on their race. That isn’t exactly what you said, and may not be relevant to what you meant, but I’m not clear on what it means to evaluate an entire ethnic group. — Unless you’re talking about making a judgment based on statistical observations, such as the judgment that women, in general, aren’t (or didn’t used to be) as good at math as men because they tested lower on standardized math tests.

    If we were to attempt to analyze whether one race might be superior to another, first we’d have to define “race,” and then we’d have to define “superior.” The difficulty in defining race is that, for example, African-Americans are not of one race, but are all of mixed racial heritage, and the mix varies from individual to individual. There are dominant and recessive racial characteristics, just like any other genetic characteristics, but many traits that are broadly associated with race are, in fact, cultural, as discussed previously in Guilt By Assimilation and It’s Not About Race, Rev. Wright.

    To define superiority, we’d have to establish both a criteria and a metric by which to measure it. The criteria might include considerations such as moral, cultural, economic, academic, industrial, scientific, intellectual, physical, etc. Yet, those seem to apply more to cultures than to races. (Look at the enormous technological and industrial advances in Japan after WWII. They were brought about by changes in the culture, not in the race.) But suppose, for example, we were to select a criteria such as achievement in business and academia by which to evaluate ethnic groups. By that criteria, one would have to conclude that Asians are a superior race to Caucasians. Alternatively, it might turn out that Jews are, in fact, the master race.

    Once we determine our ranking of the races, what then? Of what use is that information? Do we subjugate all the other races in service of the superior one(s)? Very tricky, since there will always be many individuals of the statistically “inferior” races who are superior to many individuals of the statistically “superior” one(s). Or perhaps we start a hybridization program to improve the species by selective interbreeding?

    (I can’t wait to see what Mr. Guy accuses me of, after reading this…)

  28. “ohhh, Mr. Guy needs to spoon-feed people. I see, we’re babies in his eyes, nice!! Mr. Guy, do you change diapers? I might need mine changed sometime, and I think you are ideally suited to perform this task!!”

    I swear you can almost set your watch to when you guys will revert to childish nonsense when your ideas are challenged…it’s amazing & very entertaining…

    “Why don’t you go back to DailyKos where you belong and troll the people there?”

    I don’t happen to like DailyKos tyvm…those guys are crazy…lol… Did Elizabeth Edwards lie about her husband’s affair??

    “There are those of us who resent seeing Martin Luther King Boulevards in every damn city.”

    Heck, McSame fought hard against his state (AZ) recognizing MLK Jr.’s Birthday as a national holiday!

    “Because we see the aggrandizement of King as a form of affirmative action. It is guilt ridden elitism making atonement for who knows what?”

    So Dr. King was a bad guy after all eh Mr. Swift?? He’s not even qualified to have a street named after him??? I’m sorry, but I can’t think of any rational reasons to justify a stupid statement like that.

    “It punishes the innocent. It rewards the incompetent. It diminishes the standards of performance.”

    Real affirmative action does NONE of these things, since it only applies to truly qualified people in the first place. What it “punishes” is racists, sexists, and the like.

    “Does that create a specific bar that Mr Guy seems to envision calling for the need to establish certain stereotypes as accomplished?”

    What the heck are you even talking about??

    “After four years, testing of the student body established that in popular opinion Blacks were fast, Mexicans were strong, and Whites were smart.”

    How the heck does academic testing determine that someone is “fast” or “strong”?? Are you just making this stuff up as you go along??

    “Respect (and contumely) are earned.”

    I agree complete, and you Sir deserve absolutely NO respect for continuing to push your ignorant, uniformed, stuck-in-the-mud nonsense here, period.

    “but I’m not clear on what it means to evaluate an entire ethnic group.”

    He just doesn’t know what he is talking about NYD…quit trying to give him the benefit of the doubt. I’m at a loss as to why you idolize this old fool in the first place…I’m sorry, but I’m at a loss to explain why anyone would heed this guy’s “pearls of wisdom”.

    “such as the judgment that women are (or didn’t used to be) as good at math as men because they tested lower on standardized math tests.”

    Once again sexist-NYD, this was NEVER true in the first place!

    You pseudo-intellectual ramblings about what “race” and “superior” mean are just plain stupid. Quit hiding behind simple word games!

    “Or perhaps we start a hybridization program to improve the species by selective interbreeding?”

    Or perhaps you could just implement your libertarian eugenics/sterilization program on the “weaker” races? Give me a break…

    And don’t even get me started on all the stereotypes that you tried to pawn off on people in “It’s Not About Race, Rev. Wright” & “Guilt by Assimilation”…”street/ghetto subculture”…lol…as if you even know what the heck you are talking about. Did you learn that in the whole year that you lived in poverty?? Unbelievable…

    For some strange reason, it wouldn’t surprise me in the least if you really did think that the Jews were “the master race”…who knows…

  29. I’m sorry, but I’m at a loss to explain why anyone would heed this guy’s “pearls of wisdom”.

    For some reason, that calls to mind another expression about “pearls before swine…”   ;)

  30. Well, it sure didn’t take too long to exhaust whatever it is that you had in the tank to say on these issues sexist-NYD…too bad…

  31. Mr. Guy, there’s only so much time I have to devote to refuting ad hominem attacks and pointing out the numerous cases where you answer a strawman argument, instead of the one that was set forth, and then proclaim victory. There’s no point in continuing ad infinitum.

    Unless you can raise some new point or actually refute a point that has been made, I have nothing further to say. You did come up with valid evidence in the Affirmative Action thread that womeon’s SAT scores in math finally closed the gap with men’s scores this year. That was a valid point, supported with evidence. Then you started accusing me of being a liar for having said that women’s scores have historically been consistently lower than men’s. That was not a valid point. You don’t seem to be able to see the difference.

    Any time you come up with a valid argument, I will answer it. But I will not engage in your style of debate, which quickly devolves into spewing invective and gloating over imaginary victories.

  32. Mr. Guy said:
    “I swear you can almost set your watch to when you guys will revert to childish nonsense when your ideas are challenged…it’s amazing & very entertaining…”

    Tuco says:
    Well Mr. Guy, it seems the watch starts ticking when you start typing, you were first at getting childish, you win!

  33. I’m not making any “ad hominem” attacks here…attacking ones words and points of view on issues is NOT and ad hominem attack! This whining from you is just you trying to deflect from the controversial issues that YOU raised in the first place! You are not a sexist because of who you are NYD…you are a sexist because of the words that you choose to use, which spread attitudes, conditions, or behaviors that promote stereotyping of social roles based on gender, period. Live with it…or not…I could care less either way…

    The issues at hand have NOTHING to do with SAT scores…there is no way to make any valid comparisons by looking at those scores…you’re really never going to learn though, are you??

    “Then you started accusing me of being a liar for having said that women’s scores have historically been consistently lower than men’s.”

    We’ve already been over when I used that specific term liar with you…repeating the same invalid phrase again is meaningless.

    Yet more nonsense from you Taco…it’s all you really have in the tank eh? Sad…

  34. Well, Mr. Guy, I do have to sink to a pretty low level to match wits with with you, so how can you blame me for having nothing relevant to say?

  35. oh, and Mr. Guy, to refresh your memory, here is the list of some of the ad hominem attacks you made:

    …you to revert to your usual childish tantrums …
    …by being a racist…
    …You, NYD, are a sexist …
    …you’re a sexist …
    …could you be any more of a childish, lil pansy …
    …you’re a racist Tuco…
    …you idolize this old fool …

    you remind me of the early days of newsgroups, newbie AOL trolls, hahaha, LOL. Go back to Kos, you fit right in there, since clearly that where what little thinking you do originates.

  36. I am from Pakistan. I left that God-forsaken land 34 years ago because I was denied a job purely because I was not a Muslim. As an ethnic minority, I catch all kinds of snide glares and disciplinary remarks because I am not a liberal minority waiting for a governmental handout. I am deserting the ethnic group. If that isn’t reverse racism of a kind, I do not know what is. It exemplifies the whole liberal attitude that they are inclusional, and accepting and non-discriminatory provided that you agree with their agenda. If not….God help you!

    Reaganite..Glenn J. D’Abreo
    http://www.hangright.org

  37. Nice blog, Glenn!!

  38. “oh, and Mr. Guy, to refresh your memory, here is the list of some of the ad hominem attacks you made:”

    LOL…thanks for taking my words completely & totally out of context Taco…nice try…for you…

    BTW, I never called you a racist Taco…I only said that you make up excuses for racists.

    You seemed to be obsessed with Kos…not me…I’ve been there maybe 5 times in my entire life…I doubt that you can say the same Taco…have fun over there…

  39. The “R” word differs from the “N” word in one important way. The “R” word has to be earned.

  40. No, it doesn’t, Wigglesworth. Anyone can call anyone a racist. It doesn’t have to be true to be damning. (I actually addressed that very point in the original post.)

    Presumably, if one is a racist, it’s by their own volition. But what’s more insidious about calling someone a racist is that, just because one is labeled that, doesn’t mean it’s true. Yet how does one prove what one is not? Once tarred with the brush of racism, either by accusation or implication, one cannot easily defend oneself without sounding like one is begging the question.

  41. Nice job Wigglesworth…

  42. My point is that the “N” word is used against persons for something inherent to their existence, something they were born with, something that can never be changed. It also has a history of oppression behind it, which is where the awesome power of that word comes from. It is a word that was used to keep an entire people down for generations.

    NYD, I agree with you that anyone can be called a racist. If that label is directed at someone who isn’t a racist, though, I’d argue that the word has no power at all. Sticks and stones and all that…

    I see your beef with this blog entry as simply: When someone calls it like they it, political correctness be damned, too often the opposition responds with the “racist” allegations. You may have a point there. But I disagree that the “R” word used in that way has even remotely the same power as the “N” word.

  43. Wigglesworth, I was going to post a reply here, but my response was rather long, so I decided to post it as a separate blog entry. See Sticks and Stones and All That.


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