Sunni and Shiite Unite Against the West

If you’re one of those who is absolutely convinced that there could never be any connection or collaboration between the various Islamic terrorist organizations, because Sunnis and Shiites hate each other, you need to read this article, Death by Car Bomb in Damascus. (I’ve included excerpts below, but there’s much more information in the original article.)

They may hate each other, but not as much as they hate us. Historical evidence shows clearly that, whatever ill will the rank and file Sunnis and Shiites harbor toward one another, their radical leaders are more than willing to set aside sectarian differences to unite in a common effort to destroy the West.

Imad Mugniyah is the top-ranking Hezbollah terrorist leader who was killed last week in a car bomb in Damascus. We all know who Osama bin Laden is.

Imad Mugniyah’s relationship with Osama bin Laden began in the early 1990s, when al Qaeda’s CEO was living in Sudan. Bin Laden’s benefactor at the time was a charismatic Sunni Islamist ideologue named Hassan al-Turabi. …

The differences between Sunnis and Shiites were not insurmountable in Turabi’s eyes; on multiple occasions he dismissed the importance of any theological disagreements. Instead, Turabi envisioned a grand, Manichean clash of civilizations in which the Muslim world stood united against its common Western foes, especially America. In a few short years, Turabi’s Sudan became a hub for international terrorists of all stripes. …

Bin Laden agreed with the Iranian assessment that the enemies of the West should come together. …

The Clinton administration recognized that an alliance between Iran, Hezbollah, and al Qaeda had blossomed in Sudan. In its 1998 indictment of al Qaeda, Clinton administration prosecutors charged that al Qaeda had “forged alliances with the National Islamic Front in the Sudan and with representatives of the government of Iran, and its associated terrorist group Hezbollah, for the purpose of working together against their perceived common enemies in the West, particularly the United States.” …

That the two men met was made clear by Ali Mohamed, a top al Qaeda operative in the early 1990s, who testified at the embassy bombings trial that he had arranged a sit-down in Sudan between the aspiring jihadist bin Laden and Mugniyah. Mohamed explained:

“I was aware of certain contacts between al Qaeda and [Ayman al-Zawahiri's Egyptian Islamic Jihad] organization, on one side, and Iran and Hezbollah on the other side. I arranged security for a meeting in the Sudan between Mugniyah, Hezbollah’s chief, and bin Laden.”

According to Mohamed, bin Laden was interested in forcing American troops out of Saudi Arabia the same way Mugniyah had forced them out of Lebanon. Mohamed said that Mugniyah agreed to help:

“Hezbollah provided explosives training for al Qaeda and [Egyptian Islamic Jihad]. …”

The type of training described by Mohamed took place not only in Sudan, where hundreds of Iran’s Revolutionary Guards and Hezbollah operatives had built terrorist training camps, but also in Lebanon and Iran. The 9/11 Commission reported that “senior al Qaeda operatives and trainers traveled to Iran to receive training in explosives.” Then, “in the fall of 1993, another such delegation went to the Bekaa Valley in Lebanon for further training in explosives as well as in intelligence and security.” …

[Former Al Qaeda opertive] Jamal al Fadl also told U.S. prosecutors that he had talked to one of his fellow al Qaeda terrorists about his training in Lebanon. Al Fadl said he was told the “training is very good” and his colleague brought “some tapes with him.” Al Fadl elaborated: “I saw one of the tapes, and he tell me they train about how to explosives big buildings [sic].” Al Fadl went on to list the names of some of those who received Hezbollah’s training. Saif al-Adel, who was promoted to the third-highest position inside al Qaeda shortly after the September 11 attacks, was among them.
- Death by Car Bomb in Damascus, Weekly Standard

The information in this article is a matter of public record, and comes from the 9/11 Commission report and from testimony by Al Qaeda operatives in the 1998 trial for the embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania. If, after being exposed to the historical evidence, you still don’t believe in an international network of Islamic terrorist organizations working together to defeat the West, I can only conclude that you have your own reasons for preferring not to believe it.


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  1. I completely agree that we are at war for our very existence.

    When are we going to actually begin to fight like it?

    Oh, wait.

    First we have to fill up the truck.

    Then we’ll REALLY start fighting, for sure.

    Hold on. How about just as soon as we get back from the mall, M’Kay?

  2. Isn’t it a bit different in Lebanon where the Shi’ites are the same type of ethnic Arab as the Sunni but, in eastern Iraq and Iran, the Shi-ites are a slightly different ethnic group from the Sunni? No matter – Muslim fanatics come from both sects want us dead.

  3. I find it interesting that our friend Mr. Guy has been conspicuously absent on this thread, considering some of his previous comments, such as on this post, where he said “Iran and Al-Qaeda are not allies,” and “Last time I checked, Iran and Syria haven’t attacked the USA either.”

    In a comment on this post, Mr. Guy said “Hezbollah is not going to come over here to attack us. … After 9/11, Hezbollah condemned Al-Qaeda for targeting civilians in the World Trade Center.”

    Knowing what we know now, I wonder if Mr. Guy would consider the possiblility that Hezbollah’s “condemnation” was perhaps a bit disingenous? Especially considering that Hezbollah, itself, has never had any scruples about blowing up civilians…

  4. So I finally got under your skin huh? The truth hurts when I call you out on what you’ve been doing here for quite some time now…changing the issues and beating strawmen. The truth hurts sometimes huh?

    Iran and Al-Qaeda are *not* allies, despite this useless post from the neo-cons at the Weekly Standard…the same *exact people* that helped get us in the mess that we’re in over in the Middle East to begin with! This whole post is a joke, and I didn’t feel it worth mine or your time to respond to it, period.

    Do I like the regimes in Iran or Syria? No, but widening our already failed endeavors in Iraq to these two additional countries is shear and utter madness IMO. Our military is stretched waaaay too far already.

    Hezbollah is against Israel and their influence in Lebanon. You’re a big fan of listening and believing what terrorists in the Middle East say…so listen to what they’ve said. I’ve said before that I understand that you’re a “friend of Israel”, but we don’t need to be fighting their battles either. They can take care of themselves if they truly look out for their best interests.

  5. Regardless of where this article was published, the data comes from the 9/11 Commission report and testimony by Al Qaeda operatives. Dismissing any facts as a joke that decisively refute your assertions is not a very effective debate tactic. It only shows you have no rebuttal.

    I have listened to what the terrorists in the Middle East have said. Perhaps you should try listening, too. The following is an excerpt from the part of Hezbollah’s mission statement titled “The Necessity for the Destruction of Israel.”

    We see in Israel the vanguard of the United States in our Islamic world. It is the hated enemy that must be fought until the hated ones get what they deserve. … Therefore our struggle will end only when this entity is obliterated. We recognize no treaty with it, no cease fire, and no peace agreements, whether separate or consolidated. We vigorously condemn all plans for negotiation with Israel, and regard all negotiators as enemies
    (emphasis mine)

    You claim that all Hezbollah wants is peace in Lebanaon. Apparently, Hezbollah disagrees with you.

  6. The info in the original article has been cherry picked to make the conclusion that the neo-cons want…America is fighting in some epic struggle against most of the Muslim world. They’re crazy, and I don’t think that the American people are going to let them take us along the path to ruin anymore. Their days are numbered.

    I’m not sure that I’ll ever understand your (and a lot of the Right-wing in this country) defense of Israel…it’s almost like you all are more militant than they actually are. A majority of Israelis have been willing to negotiate with their enemies to achieve peace for quite some time now.

    Hezbollah used to have three main goals: the eradication of Western colonialism in Lebanon, the bringing to justice of those who committed “atrocities” during the Lebanese Civil War (specifically the Phalangists, which are mainly supported by Maronite Christians), and the establishment of an Islamic government in Lebanon. Hezbollah temporarily abandoned the goal of transforming Lebanon into an Islamic state as impractical a while ago. Hezbollah leaders have also made numerous statements calling for the destruction of Israel, which they describe as an unlawful “entity”. Hezbollah has apparently not been involved in any suicide bombing since Israel withdrew from Lebanon.

    I don’t support Hezbollah, but they aren’t our enemy. They are Israel’s enemy, and Israel can take care of itself. It’s a nuclear power, and it has one of the strongest militaries in the world.

  7. “A majority of Israelis have been willing to negotiate with their enemies to achieve peace for quite some time now. ”

    That’s very true. Unfortunately, their enemies have not been willing to negotiate peace with them.

  8. “their enemies have not been willing to negotiate peace with them.”

    We’ve been over and over this before. This isn’t true, but yet you don’t believe that. Like I said originally…this thread is a waste of both our time.


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