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	<description>Free will. Free market. What's so hard to understand about that?</description>
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		<title>By: Dean Calvert</title>
		<link>http://notyourdaddy.wordpress.com/2008/01/23/redistribution-of-health/#comment-412</link>
		<dc:creator>Dean Calvert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 07:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good info. and reading. I would definitely bookmark you to check for new updates.
Thanks,
Dean</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good info. and reading. I would definitely bookmark you to check for new updates.<br />
Thanks,<br />
Dean</p>
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		<title>By: I&#8217;m A Pundit Too &#124; Carnival of Political Punditry - January 27, 2008</title>
		<link>http://notyourdaddy.wordpress.com/2008/01/23/redistribution-of-health/#comment-273</link>
		<dc:creator>I&#8217;m A Pundit Too &#124; Carnival of Political Punditry - January 27, 2008</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 19:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] presents Redistribution of Health posted at Government is not your Daddy. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: No Hillary 2008 BlogCarnival (Edition Ten)</title>
		<link>http://notyourdaddy.wordpress.com/2008/01/23/redistribution-of-health/#comment-252</link>
		<dc:creator>No Hillary 2008 BlogCarnival (Edition Ten)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 12:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] presents Redistribution of Health posted at Government is not your Daddy. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mister Guy</title>
		<link>http://notyourdaddy.wordpress.com/2008/01/23/redistribution-of-health/#comment-240</link>
		<dc:creator>Mister Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 01:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No one is out to build a health care system exactly like any other country has.  This is America...we have almost more money here than God.  The single payer systems that I've seen planned cost no where near the percentage that you claim either.  Doctors in other countries make plenty of money BTW.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one is out to build a health care system exactly like any other country has.  This is America&#8230;we have almost more money here than God.  The single payer systems that I&#8217;ve seen planned cost no where near the percentage that you claim either.  Doctors in other countries make plenty of money BTW.</p>
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		<title>By: hill</title>
		<link>http://notyourdaddy.wordpress.com/2008/01/23/redistribution-of-health/#comment-227</link>
		<dc:creator>hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 06:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you want to destroy the best health care system in the world, just legislate away the profit.  Simple, then build a system like Canada, so no one will have comprehensive health care in the western hemisphere.  And it'll only cost us another 30% or so of our incomes, and our brilliant Drs. will turn to trading commodity futures from their dens at home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want to destroy the best health care system in the world, just legislate away the profit.  Simple, then build a system like Canada, so no one will have comprehensive health care in the western hemisphere.  And it&#8217;ll only cost us another 30% or so of our incomes, and our brilliant Drs. will turn to trading commodity futures from their dens at home.</p>
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		<title>By: NotYourDaddy</title>
		<link>http://notyourdaddy.wordpress.com/2008/01/23/redistribution-of-health/#comment-186</link>
		<dc:creator>NotYourDaddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 23:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jackson, your words of wisdom are always welcome. 
I hope you'll be a regular visitor here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jackson, your words of wisdom are always welcome.<br />
I hope you&#8217;ll be a regular visitor here.</p>
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		<title>By: Jackson</title>
		<link>http://notyourdaddy.wordpress.com/2008/01/23/redistribution-of-health/#comment-185</link>
		<dc:creator>Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 18:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The proposal on healthcare scheduled for the February legislative session in Oregon is a move to establish a Constituional right in every person to unlimited healthcare.

Whatever happened to providing for yourself?

Whence come these dreams of governmental entitlements?

Our healthcare system, lucrative as it is for some, is the greatest system in the world. We make the greatest contributions to the funding of research.  We achieve the majority of the innovations and breakthroughs.  What we have is an excellent endorsement of the government promoting the General Welfare via profit incentive in the free market.  The only downside to that is that some corporations turn a profit.  

Bad, I guess, if you've got a thing against corporate profit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The proposal on healthcare scheduled for the February legislative session in Oregon is a move to establish a Constituional right in every person to unlimited healthcare.</p>
<p>Whatever happened to providing for yourself?</p>
<p>Whence come these dreams of governmental entitlements?</p>
<p>Our healthcare system, lucrative as it is for some, is the greatest system in the world. We make the greatest contributions to the funding of research.  We achieve the majority of the innovations and breakthroughs.  What we have is an excellent endorsement of the government promoting the General Welfare via profit incentive in the free market.  The only downside to that is that some corporations turn a profit.  </p>
<p>Bad, I guess, if you&#8217;ve got a thing against corporate profit.</p>
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		<title>By: NotYourDaddy</title>
		<link>http://notyourdaddy.wordpress.com/2008/01/23/redistribution-of-health/#comment-183</link>
		<dc:creator>NotYourDaddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 03:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm all for death with dignity. It's a free will thing. 

WRT Oregon's healthcare legislation, it's rumored that, in February, the legislature will be entertaining a proposal to amend the state constitution to legislate that every Oregonian has a constitutional right to healthcare. The only problem is, they haven't really considered yet how they're going to fund it. =:[] 
(I have no idea what those guys are smoking, but it smells like skunkweed to me.) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m all for death with dignity. It&#8217;s a free will thing. </p>
<p>WRT Oregon&#8217;s healthcare legislation, it&#8217;s rumored that, in February, the legislature will be entertaining a proposal to amend the state constitution to legislate that every Oregonian has a constitutional right to healthcare. The only problem is, they haven&#8217;t really considered yet how they&#8217;re going to fund it. =:[]<br />
(I have no idea what those guys are smoking, but it smells like skunkweed to me.)</p>
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		<title>By: Mister Guy</title>
		<link>http://notyourdaddy.wordpress.com/2008/01/23/redistribution-of-health/#comment-182</link>
		<dc:creator>Mister Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 02:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And that's why there's a growing consensus in this country that we need to take the profit-motive out of providing health care insurance.  You're opposed to that...it's going to be a bumpy ride.  

I would be more concerned about what's going on in your home state as it relates to health care reform.  I heard a long while back that OR came up with a long list of health care procedures and then mandated which ones should be covered by plans in the state...or something like that.  I think you also have a "death with dignity" law that we in VT have been trying to get passed here.

I don't think that we'll get a Democrat in the White House that won't want to reduce the tax burden on the middle and lower classes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And that&#8217;s why there&#8217;s a growing consensus in this country that we need to take the profit-motive out of providing health care insurance.  You&#8217;re opposed to that&#8230;it&#8217;s going to be a bumpy ride.  </p>
<p>I would be more concerned about what&#8217;s going on in your home state as it relates to health care reform.  I heard a long while back that OR came up with a long list of health care procedures and then mandated which ones should be covered by plans in the state&#8230;or something like that.  I think you also have a &#8220;death with dignity&#8221; law that we in VT have been trying to get passed here.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that we&#8217;ll get a Democrat in the White House that won&#8217;t want to reduce the tax burden on the middle and lower classes.</p>
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		<title>By: NotYourDaddy</title>
		<link>http://notyourdaddy.wordpress.com/2008/01/23/redistribution-of-health/#comment-181</link>
		<dc:creator>NotYourDaddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 18:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Do you really, honesty, think that her plan, if it was ever implemented, would actually do that in the end? I think they might fix that supposed “flaw” in her plan before implementation if that were the truth."

Not all "flaws" can be fixed. You can't legislate that some people pay less without somebody else picking up the cost, unless you legislate maximums on premiums, which translates to capping profits. The problem is, when businesses don't return enough profit, they're forced to reduce services. If you pass more laws, saying they can't do that, they'll eventually shut down and switch to a more profitable line of business. (They're in business to make a profit, after all. Thay's why they're called businesses and not charities.) The end result is fewer options for the consumer.

The rates for the average healthy person will probably go up under this plan. Her "fix" for that flaw is to provide people with tax credits so, if they pay more than a certain percentage of their income, they get reimbursed by the government (e.g., the taxpayers). Of course, the "rich" will not be eligible because even expensive health insurance will amount to a smaller percentage of their income. At the same time, they lose the tax credits that everybody else gets. So we get to stick it to the rich twice with one plan! Pretty nifty, huh? (Capitalists must be punished!)

WRT tax cuts, it isn't fear-mongering. This comes straight from the donkey's mouth. All of Bush's tax cuts expire in 2010. The Republicans want to renew them and the Democrats are opposed. That's a fact. Another fact is that these tax cuts affect all Americans, not just the rich.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Do you really, honesty, think that her plan, if it was ever implemented, would actually do that in the end? I think they might fix that supposed “flaw” in her plan before implementation if that were the truth.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not all &#8220;flaws&#8221; can be fixed. You can&#8217;t legislate that some people pay less without somebody else picking up the cost, unless you legislate maximums on premiums, which translates to capping profits. The problem is, when businesses don&#8217;t return enough profit, they&#8217;re forced to reduce services. If you pass more laws, saying they can&#8217;t do that, they&#8217;ll eventually shut down and switch to a more profitable line of business. (They&#8217;re in business to make a profit, after all. Thay&#8217;s why they&#8217;re called businesses and not charities.) The end result is fewer options for the consumer.</p>
<p>The rates for the average healthy person will probably go up under this plan. Her &#8220;fix&#8221; for that flaw is to provide people with tax credits so, if they pay more than a certain percentage of their income, they get reimbursed by the government (e.g., the taxpayers). Of course, the &#8220;rich&#8221; will not be eligible because even expensive health insurance will amount to a smaller percentage of their income. At the same time, they lose the tax credits that everybody else gets. So we get to stick it to the rich twice with one plan! Pretty nifty, huh? (Capitalists must be punished!)</p>
<p>WRT tax cuts, it isn&#8217;t fear-mongering. This comes straight from the donkey&#8217;s mouth. All of Bush&#8217;s tax cuts expire in 2010. The Republicans want to renew them and the Democrats are opposed. That&#8217;s a fact. Another fact is that these tax cuts affect all Americans, not just the rich.</p>
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